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Me: Ok windows. Shutdown!
Windows: I update!
Me: *sigh* OK, update and shutdown!
Windows: I update and restart?
Me: no. Update and SHUTDOWN!
Windows: OKAY!!!! I UPDATE AND RESTART!!!!
@avon_deer I remember raging about that yearssssss ago.
I forgot when they added that dark pattern. W10 or 8.1. Definitely 10 though.
Where shutdown no longer meant shutdown but randomly I’d come to my PC and it was on again after that shit.
Was the beginning of the end for final straws I had for MS.
@colinstu MS calls it "Fast Startup"
It is not a total shutdown. To do that you have to shutdown while holding the CTRL key.
@avon_deer this is separate from Fast Startup.
And I always disabled that bullshit too (have to go into the old Advanced power options control panel).
When I shutdown I want a real shutdown.
W10 would still power back up after a “update and shutdown”.
Ultimately what you're referring to aesthetic-wise when it comes to the relationship between it's computer and user is that with windows you no longer issue your system instructions to be followed. You make suggestions that it might comply with if MS approves of it.
You're less using a piece of machinery and more sharing an "experience."
And yeah. I dislike it too.
@avon_deer it’s a dark pattern and I dumped their bullshit.
Faster the business and government world moves on from it the better.
Candy crush ad links in everyone’s start menu. They played everyone like fools.
@avon_deer @colinstu fast startup can also eat a bag of dicks o.<
Was having an issue last night where my m.2 was at 100% utilisation at 4Mb write speed. And my machine was crawling.
Once I managed to get into task manager I saw the "system uptime" as 3:00:00:00
Thought it'd been on longer than 3 hours.......
Then saw the last column ticking up in seconds o.<
Must remember to turn it off tonight
@avon_deer I can’t tell you how many bizarre issues I’ve fixed for folks by permanently disabling fast startup for them.
You can’t even tell folks if they turned PC off and on again, because the default behavior doesn’t even perform/allow that.
Microsoft knows full well too. Stability peaked w/W7 for them. They need their shit to be buggier to encourage folks to “just one more update. Seriously we fixed it this time. Just one more pile of shitty new features we snuck in.”
@ferret not knowingly/willingly o.o but I will check.
It went through a spare of "on startup, hang for 5 mins" then cleared. Oddly when I bought a new m.2 in case it was the drive
Now it's started again.
But not at this boot.
It's weird o.< I can stream data in and out of that drive at m.2 speeds usually. Just at startup, something is pushing a massive 4 MB/s and utilising /all/ of the drive. No reads. And can't see anything that could be doing it. As by the time process explorer has managed to launch.... It's stopped
