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Gorgeous new artwork by @leggy2fast with @CheetahObscura - in which it's a hopeful and more gentle solarpunk future. We're happily working together to get some old solar panels up and running, and in the background a long-abandoned data centre has been partially reclaimed by nature, partially absorbed into our small, sustainable community.

I love how this turned out so much. I love the colours and light, I love our nonbinary clothing that says in this world we can express ourselves however we want, I love how we're doing important work and actually finding joy and meaning in it in it, I love the sense that there's a thriving community working the landscape behind us making a world I'd actually want to live in, and I love that the data centre is in ruins as a symbolic, gentle but resolute middle finger to data centres and AI and all the damage they're doing to us and our world today. And most of all I love the way this piece is an expression of hope in a time where, moment of vulnerability, I'm feeling really, really damn short of it lately.

I'm so grateful to Obscura for proposing we go together on another art piece, and to Raf for realising this absolute beauty.

#furryart #solarpunk #nonbinary

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The ruins sort of put me in mind of a youtube video I watched about previous technological/industrial bubbles, about how old mills were repurposed into offices and flats, big factory spaces can become art galleries and the like, but with the caveat that data centres aren't really constructed like buildings. They're mostly a steel frame packed with cooling equipment and server racks. Repurposing them will be difficult.

@The4thCircle

Sounds like a really neat video! Though yeah I can see what you mean. If they don't have enough structural strength to do much in or on top of them, maybe better to just leave it to nature (in a solarpunk vision like this anyway) and reroute the power and water infrastructure elsewhere outside of them.

Pippin friendica
@Doran Eirok ΘΔ 🫐🐾 @Developing Stacy :pico8: They typically have *really* strong floors because they are designed to be filled with closely packed racks of heavy equipment! They have unusual features like raised floors throughout and lots of cableways between areas. I'm sure they could be reused for something.

@pippin @The4thCircle

I'd wonder about the relatively weak roof and only a single floor, it seems like to try and repurpose it to any sort of conventional building you'd have to effectively build a new actual building inside the shell which would probably not be cost effective, if possible at all. Those unusual features you mention definitely could be valuable, but it would take some investment and cleverness and I worry at the extent to which businesses tend to prefer solutions that are cheap and easy. With the right thinking and investment, I'm sure the infrastructure could be repurposed to a more general and useful sort of computing centre, so hopefully that proves to be the case.

Pippin friendica
@Doran Eirok ΘΔ 🫐🐾 @Developing Stacy :pico8: I have to admit I haven't been to many actual datacentres. The main one I've worked in is Telehouse North which was built in the 1990s I think, and seems pretty sturdy. I guess if the AI ones being built now are made of ticky-tacky and barely adequate for the precise thing they're being built to house, yeah, you are probably more right than I am. I did see a video talking about these things only a day or two ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-J2sRBMkQ , I think) where the guy kept mentioning that the cooling setups in each datacentre were specific to the GPUs it was being built for, which struck me as wild - after all, heat is heat. But I suppose they are doing this on such scale it probably makes sense to microoptimise for the exact hardware being built for. Which then makes it far less reusable. Which is sad.
@pippin
You have to wonder how much of "optimised for this specific hardware and use case" is actual necessity and how much is an excuse to ask for more investment to build these things.
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Those are such beautiful words, Doran, thank you so much! I think we could all do with some extra hope in these trying times ❤
Thank you! And thank you again for the incredible art. I think this is one of the most emotional art pieces I've had done in a very long time if not ever. And I absolutely agree. ❤
Pippin friendica
@Doran Eirok ΘΔ 🫐🐾 I know this isn't what you mean, but I keep feeling weird when people talk about "datacentres", as such, as being bad. I'm pretty sure they mean "AI datacentres", i.e. the ones that are using far more power than traditional datacentres to the point where they need water cooling and don't do much other than train and/or run LLMs. But my whole livelihood is in datacentres — the traditional ones which host telecoms, IXPs, web and email hosting and all the other stuff that's on the internet. AI datacentres are a very different thing from datacentres. I had a similar weirdness when "crypto" was being disparaged — cryptography is essential, e.g. TLS as part of https for web sites; crypto*currencies* are the trash thing. Kind of the same thing here. I've wanted to build my own datacentre (probably a very very mini one) for ages and might even manage it sometime — it'll hopefully be mostly solar powered and as energy efficient and environmentally friendly as I can make it. Sorry for choosing this particular post to unburden this on, it's a lovely picture and very much agree on it all apart from that one subtle (or maybe not so subtle) distinction in terminology. 🤗🤗🤗

@pippin

I very much understand what you mean - my apologies, people tend toward shorthand terms for things even when it loses important distinctions. What I meant to throw shade on here is indeed very much -AI datacentres-, as you say the sort that are exceptionally power- and water-hungry and and specialised to such an extent that they won't be much good to anyone if and when the AI bubble bursts because they can't really be repurposed to handling other, more useful types of data or cloud services. Apart from maybe finding some use for the building itself which is little more than a giant barn with a strong floor. They've become a pretty hot political topic and those especially tend toward easy shorthand terms. People don't like them, the environmental impact is huge, and they can only ever really do one thing, and it's a thing that more and more people are really getting tired of having shoved in their faces when it's hard to see any actual value to them.

And like you say with 'crypto', you're exactly right that that became the common shorthand for 'cryptocurrency' and that's what people were wanting to trash on. Cryptography itself is an incredible and important field - I live not far from Bletchley Park where Alan Turing and other brilliant minds worked tirelessly to crack the Enigma code during World War 2, so I've got plenty of appreciation for that!

But yes, my apologies, no disrespect intended toward your livelihood and the broader infrastructure that makes so much of the internet and the modern world as we know it possible.

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Pippin friendica
@Doran Eirok ΘΔ 🫐🐾 It's fine, you don't really need to apologise for using language the way most people keep using it. But thank you. 🤗🤗🤗🤗
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