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Simon Tatham mastodon (AP)

My dad has this very old piece of cross-stitch art in his house. Every time I see it I'm struck by how much it anticipated 1990s pixel art on 16-bit micros like the Amiga, simply because the artist was working under similar constraints: a low-resolution grid of square pixels, and a strong incentive to use as few _different_ colours of yarn as possible, with much less constraint on what those colours should be – just as the Amiga and similar machines let you have a palette of 32 colours on screen at once but they could be chosen from a much larger space.

And the artist has used the same stylistic tricks to compensate for those limitations as Amiga artists did, or at least some of them. I could easily imagine someone having drawn this in Deluxe Paint, and perhaps even used it as an interstitial image in the middle of a period-themed Amiga game, with some important plot dialogue subtitled on the bottom.

I keep thinking it would be kind of cool to digitise it back to pixels + palette. But for proper style the result would have to be stored in an IFF ILBM instead of any more up-to-date image format.

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Mathieu Perona mastodon (AP)
I went once to an exhibit of the Gobelins tapestries workshop. Zone women explained that they used scissors blades to get some fluff and thus blur the stitches on diagonal lines. By the XIIth century, someone had discovered antialiasing.
Pooja Saxena mastodon (AP)
Beautiful, Simon! I’ve been similarly interested in seeing pixel type from the lens of cross-stitch, weaving and knitting patterns, and studying traditional patterns across scripts has been nothing short of revelatory (I even wrote a little something about it last year https://us12.campaign-archive.com/?u=00db3d2423772a3f86d6e22a1&id=4fa7cefeef).
There's an artist who is cross-stiching video game sprites in such old pieces, and it's wonderful ⤵
https://www.instagram.com/gauvainmanhattan/
ook mastodon (AP)
really clever comparison, certainly that precise point that made I like this kind of art, without being able to analyse it.
Martin Vermeer FCD mastodon (AP)
Vaguely remembering that old X11 displays had a similar constraint: there were 256 different colors max, dynamically mapped from a much larger set. Then, when the stuff displayed ran out of those colors, things got literally ugly...
Simon Tatham mastodon (AP)

@martinvermeer yes, I started writing X apps myself when that was still a real possibility. Indeed, the GTK version of PuTTY still has code in it to handle that case – search unix/window.c for function calls starting 'gdk_colormap_'! Surely hasn't been tested in years, though.

The standard Amiga GUI (at least in the original A500 days when I had one) just said "Here are the colours you have, use them or make your own separate Screen". X11's idea of trying to let multiple apps _share_ a limited-palette display and ask for the colours they need is much more ambitious!

Roel Nieskens mastodon (AP)
I remember seeing cross stitch art in the mid eighties, and being confused at how much crossover there was between the super cool futuristic demoscene graphics of the homecomputer underground, and these ultra dorky grandma things.
AlsoPaisleyCat mastodon (AP)

@pixelambacht
I think that this is actually tentstitch or another tapestry stitch rather than cross-stitch.

There were many adaptations of European tapestries onto canvas needlework patterns available from a firm in France in the 1990s. For those, one chose tapestry wool oneself rather than having it come in a kit.

Cross-stitch isn’t the only one that’s natively pixelated.

Even some of the rug hooking patterns that are trending again are very pixelated.

#needlework #tapestry

Simon Tatham mastodon (AP)

@AlsoPaisleyCat @pixelambacht thanks for the correction!

As you've probably already guessed, I'm not remotely an expert on tapestry or any other kind of stitching, and my interest in this kind of design is focused on its relevance to computers, so I just had to make my best guess out of types of stitch I'd heard of. :-)

Del C :vpudding: mastodon (AP)
maybe if you can find the pattern it's from, it will be easier to digitize. i only ever used paper patterns because i am not crafty at all and just wanted to pass my cross-stitch projects in school. i'm not certain but the brand may be Penelope
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1755140565/dutch-interior-woman-looking-out-window
Simon Tatham mastodon (AP)

@delcj apparently it is, thank you! I found this, with a photo of the box. Penelope Needlework, and the design is called "Dutch Interior".

https://picclick.co.uk/Unopened-Vintage-Penelope-Needlework-Tapestry-Kit-Dutch-126797616830.html

(The eBay page it links to is long gone, but at least this confirms your identification.)

maxy mastodon (AP)
The use of long (horizontal) threads for the half-tones (as opposed to dithering patterns) also has parallels with compression under RLE (run-length encoding). Not sure if computer artists ever changed their style just for a few bytes under RLE, but I wouldn't be surprised.
beemoh mastodon (AP)
Oddly related:
https://youtu.be/i4EFkspO5p4
Joost Rekveld hometown (AP)
there were companies selling these images as kits, and designers working for these companies; it would be great to investigate their choices and processes..
PypeBros mastodon (AP)

can't wait to see them embrace the hardware capabilities and setup a copperlist to make a beautiful raster on that blue sky ;)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/67/75/c66775029fff64156c5ff6c4e6444b77.jpg

Simon Tatham mastodon (AP)

Digitisation now done! Followup thread (with considerable Amiga emulator war story): https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham/114021236557200593


Last month I posted a picture of a piece of needlework art in my dad's house, and remarked on its similarity to Amiga-era pixel art: https://hachyderm.io/@simontatham/113777224091786351

I said in that post that it would be cool to digitise it back to a paletted image suitable for actually loading into Deluxe Paint. I didn't get round to doing it … but someone else did! https://kaberett.dreamwidth.org/ put in a *lot* of effort (more than I would have dreamed of asking for) and sent me a PNG.

I thought the only reasonable thing to do with that was to convert it back to IFF ILBM, transfer it on to an Amiga floppy image, and load it in _actual_ Deluxe Paint. Tada!

But even given a starting PNG, getting it into DPaint was a challenge. (1/8)


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